Don't you see how the guys on your political side are avoiding you?
They think your crazy as fuck too. They might like some of the things
you are saying, but they are not supporting you in any way, because
they know it would destroy the little credibility that they do have.

Is this your idea of arguments?

Iran didn't make any move towards me. They are a dictatorship, but there was no sign
that they were still planning to make nukes, when Obama made that deal with them.
Obama made me safer. Trump canceled it and is now the agressor. He is making the whole world less safe. He didn't achieve ANYTHING, besides killing lots of people.
Today, we don't even know who to speak with, as leaders of Iran.
It can be any random Islamic lunatic, who is in charge of the nuclear program now.

How he loves to talk dirty to women and how racist he is is just a sign of his character.
I have not talked about his awful character in a long while, because I care about his ACTIONS, which are in line with his awful character, but also with his incredible stupidity and ignorance. I prefer decent people, with knowledge and wisdom, who represent their voters in a framework of democracy and legality.
You're promoting an evil stupid asshole, who is doing the opposite of what he promised, while destroying your democracy and committing (war)crimes.

Trump created the opposite of a meritocracy in his administration; a Kakistocracy;
rule by the least qualified and/or worst people, like your Secretary of War-crimes
Pete Kegsbreath. No one but Trump would pick the dumbest drunk loser from your propaganda outlet to lead your military. He alone could be the reason for why the generals would turn on your president. Could Trump not find ONE respected and decorated general who he deemed loyal? Every single person in Trump administration
is a stupid grifting ass-kisser. Behind his back, they are all calling him an idiot.
Why do you think that there are a RECORD number of Republicans leaving Congress,
by resigning or not putting themselves up for election again? They are all tired of the stupidity and being completely ignored.

I have not seen an hour of CNN in two months combined.
I have seen more Fox'News' in the same time.
Both are crap, but Fox'News' is clearly propaganda.
You can tell easy, because they NEVER JUSTIFY ANYTHING.
They do that on purpose, because that makes lying easier for them.
If you even noticed just that, you would be on the way to recovery.

You say "IF", because you don't believe it yourself.
Trump claimed the same thing only 8 months ago.

The only hostile way to achieve it, is full occupation for the rest of ... ever.
They will always be able to do this deep inside an underground base in the mountains. There are limits to what the US can do. Permanent occupation of Iran is not feasible. The only way to assure this, is through peace and agreements. Now, why would they ever sign another agreement with Trump? He has shown his whole life that his signature is just as worthless as his words.

Obama made a great deal, and the whole world was involved to enforce it.
Anything that Trump did since, only made things worse.

Trump is threatening to destroy their country for ever.
How is that helping those Iranian people?
It's just another stupid fucking lie.

I knew before Afghanistan and Iraq that your president was lying.
You have seen the results for decades, but YOU STILL DON'T LEARN.
You keep believing the same obvious lies, over and over.

You don't KNOW that she did that on purpose.
And if she did, how will you make sure that no one can do that again?

I found reports that she didn't broke the crossing arms off with the bus.
How then can the bus be clipped by the train?
How much time is there between the crossing arms closing and the train passing?
How about having crossing arms that actually do the job.

We have regulation that is aiming to prevent situations like this, and railroad crossings
need to be made safe, even for lunatics like this:


What I'm trying to teach you, is that every time something like this happens
in your country, you just look for a perpetrator or a scapegoat,
so you don't have to actually change anything. Then nothing will improve.

When something stupid happens in the company I work for, the last thing that I'm allowed to do, is to blame the person who did the stupid thing. That's because then we won't prevent anyone else doing that stupid thing too. In aviation, they studied accidents that were blamed on human error. In 90% of those cases, there is some other cause that takes the blame away from the employees; it's system causes disguised as human error. In about 5% of the cases, it's genuine individual error (non-systemic), and only in ~1% there is intentional violation or sabotage. I can almost guarantee you that in this case there was something systemic going on, because she had a clean record.
My colleagues and I have to actually IMPROVE something, to prevent anything like it happening or being done again. That's difficult, but it's the only way that actually works.

If SHE was the CAUSE, then what is the SOLUTION?
Are old white woman now not allowed to drive buses anymore?
Do you think it's an old white woman driving the car in the picture?

You just told me how many old people are driving vehicles,
because 'young people don't want to do it anymore'.
So? What jobs can old people still do, that are safe?
You need to let them have some jobs, if you end retirement.

There were 209 school-age children killed in school-bus-related traffic incidents
over 2014–2023:
79 were pedestrians
83 were occupants of other vehicles
38 were school bus occupants

Why are they adding that the bus driver KNOWINGLY drove the bus into danger. I see kids shouting afterwards; no evidence that she intentionally ignored the crossing arms coming down.

There is always a danger in traffic situations.
If they are brought to school by car, by sleepy or stressed parents,
they're probably in more danger of not getting to school alive.

In my country, on September 20th 2018, 4 kids died, 1 kid and the driver were badly injured, after an electrically powered cargo bike-like vehicle, a Stint, ended up under the closed level crossing barriers and was subsequently hit by a train. Our media didn't immediately accuse the driver, they called for a big investigation. This was thoroughly investigated, but it provided no conclusive evidence of a defect or human error that directly explains the crash. However, the Dutch authorities, including the Human Environment and Transport Inspectorate (ILT) and TNO, still concluded that the vehicle was not sufficiently safe for transporting passengers, with possible issues related to braking and controls. The Dutch government suspended the approval of the Stint for public road use, and it was later permanently withdrawn from approval. This means that Stints are no longer allowed on public roads in the Netherlands.
In the years following, the Public Prosecution Service (Openbaar Ministerie, OM) initiated criminal proceedings against the manufacturers and responsible parties. In late 2025, prosecutors reportedly demanded prison sentences and fines for two company directors, alleging they provided misleading safety information.
The driver of the Stint was not prosecuted, as investigations concluded she bore no blame.
In the US, you just scapegoat the driver and their supervisor, on just the opinion of a sheriff. The local bus route of that school district is changed, and nothing else happens. Does that make school buses any safer?

However, children are supposed be safe, once they're IN school.
In the same period, ~507 people were killed in school shootings.
That doesn’t happen anywhere 'civilized' other than in the US.

If you could, you would. There is just not anything sensible coming out of his mouth.

"Iran who have said they have nuclear weapons and intend on using them."
Did they? But, they were so kind to NOT use them, when they are attacked?
HOW STUPID ARE YOU?

The US wanted NATO, because you wanted Europe to pick your side.
You didn't spend that money on defense, but on offense, to control everyone.
The only time NATO was used was by the US, after 9/11, and Europe helped.

NATO is limited to the US and Europe. That's Article 6. READ IT!
Since Trump would never honor Article 5, if Russia attacks Europe,
I WANT YOU THE FUCK OUT. The US is now a worse threat to peace than Russia.

The US illegally attacked Iran. If the US doesn't even discuss it in the UN, no one will come to back your stupid useless plans. Iran is in no way a worse threat than Russia. Russia has many nukes, did threaten to use them and is still attacking Ukraine as we speak. No one is letting Trump distract Europe from that, so his friend Putin can attack us, while we help Trump destroy a country that has not shown any intent of actually attacking anyone. The only reason why Israel wants Iran destroyed, is so they can attack their neighboring countries and steal their land, without fear of retaliation from Iran. We are not aiding and abetting that.

Europe didn't have any tariffs against the US, dumbass.
Trump is an idiot and a liar. YOU are the ones paying his tariffs.
He cut taxes for the wealthy and put tariffs ON YOUR DUMB ASS.

Trump doesn't HAVE any 'policies', he only has dementia ridden brain farts.

Why should I even care?

How is the situation in any way better than it was?
Don't you understand how DUMB I think you look now?

You have just slashed all the tires on your neighbors car, and broke all the windows
of his house, and then you shout: "TRUCE!!!", while pointing your gun in his face.
Is that neighbor now less of a threat of burning your house down, while you sleep?

Are we in a position now that makes Iran less of a nuclear weapons threat?
Are the Iranian citizens now relieved of their theocratic dictatorship?

Or will the US just bomb Iran every 8 months, for ever?
Are you able of conceiving actual solutions? Forget I asked; NO, you can't.
Personally, I don't see anything that was worth THIS.

We are NOT talking about a few people, it's 11–21 million citizens of voting age.

"IF your drivers license gets took away for dui or something"
That IS an incredibly low number of people.

There is no law for you to have the right to buy a 2 dollar cigar.
There ARE laws that say that everyone has the right to vote and therefore it's illegal to to put voting behind a pay-wall and a process of frustrating bureaucracy.

Did you even read what I said?
I DO support the requirement of identification for voting. I have it myself.

Congress could have fixed this decades ago. If they had (mostly) taken away
the financial and bureaucracy infringement of acquiring identification for voting, there would be no legal reason against introducing proof of citizenship for voting.

Up to 2000, it was actually the Republicans who didn't like 'voter ID', because they feared 'government overreach'. It's only since they started using the 'election fraud' narrative that this changed. You know they are not serious, when you look at the bills they introduce that contain 'voter ID'; it's full of infringements on people's right
to vote, that no Democrat in his right mind will ever support. These bills are not intended to introduce 'voter ID', they are only intended to accuse Democrats of obstructing it. It's just a dirty trick.

The only reason for why Republicans want to do this NOW, is because they want to deny more people the right to vote. It's not about election security, because they have voted down these bills, intended to improve election security and integrity, in the last 15 years alone:
- For the People Act (H.R.1 / S.1) — 2019 & 2021
- John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act — 2021–2022
- Freedom to Vote Act — 2021
- DISCLOSE Act (multiple attempts, 2010–2022)
- Election security funding & standards bills (post-2016)

I'm Dutch, I don't watch your TV channels.
These things are know worldwide.
Only in the US are some people denying it.

WOW! Funny how they look like oil barrels.
Well, since Canada produces 70–75% of the world’s maple syrup,
I understand why this would be important. It's a seasonal product,
but the consumption is not seasonal.

Sort of similar is the production of sugar beets, which are also harvested once per year, usually in autumn. Massive piles of beets are then waiting for processing. Then during
a few months, all of those beets are processed into refined sugar and sugar syrups
(i.a. for our stroop and stroopwafels), which is stored in silos, tanks, and warehouses.



Why the difference between your many barrels and our massive tanks?
You have thousands of small producers making the end product, and you want it traceable per farm and season, but we just have two big factories making the thick juice, and it doesn't matter where the beets come from.

LIKE WHAT?
What did he say that you needed to hear, to KNOW that?
Show that you are not just a stupid CULT member, but a thinking person.

You are ignoring a whole lot, when you're saying "Then no one has anything to worry about." Let me explain a few things, to reduce your ignorance on this matter:

1) People are using mail-in ballots, to prevent Trump playing dirty tricks on them. Republicans ALWAYS purge lots of voters from the registration rolls, so when they try to vote on election day, they can't because they are no longer registertred.

2) Republicans ALWAYS shut down, close early or under-staff polling stations
in Democratic leaning areas. People avoid that cheating by using mail-in ballots.

That's why Trump wants to eliminate mail-in ballots, so he can CHEAT MORE.

There is no principled resistance to allowing people to show ID besides the following:
- Many people don't have ID/passports now
- Most of that people are poor. Poverty should not be a limitation to your right to vote, because they are expensive.
[The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly said voting is a fundamental right because it underpins all others. A key case is Harper v. Virginia Board of Elections, where the Court struck down poll taxes and said: Wealth (or ability to pay) should not determine access to voting.]
- To get a passport, usually you need to still have your birth certificate. If you don't have that anymore, you need to get a new one. The whole process takes time and costs a lot of money. People need to have time off from work to arrange it. That is another constraint for people who need to work to survive.
- The SAVE Act (not current law), would require proof of citizenship when registering. That could involve: a passport or a birth certificate + ID. If the last name doesn't match, you cannot register to vote. Many women a voter registration under their husband last name. If that doesn't match their ID (driver’s license, passport) it can take many months to have that fixed.
- Some states play dirty tricks on transgenders who have a gender registration that doesn't match their sex at birth, or they have an 'X'. It is illegal to deny people's right to vote for that, but Republicans WILL instruct poll workers to restrict their voting, on arguments a like mismatch between appearance, name or gender marker on ID.
I'm sure you would love that, but it means the DO have something to worry about.

If it's just about making sure that elections are fair, Republicans could simply agree that the requirement will only be introduced in 2028, and the whole process to get the required ID will be free of charge, or reimbursed for poor people. Democrats have proposed those exact things, but Republicans have always voted against anything
like that. It's not about fair elections for them, it's about restricting peoples right to vote as much as possible.

NOTHING in this text is even slightly relevant to your sentence:
"You don't even know who is conning you, claiming trump fucked you then left you."
Are you mentally ill?

You have never once presented any evidence that I'm lying.

The NATO alliance has formally invoked its Article 5 collective defense clause only ONCE in its history, following the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks against the United States.

I don't care, what I care about is YOU showing that you have actual reasons to be happy about what Trump SAID, instead of just being happy to see him, like some cult member.

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"Trump is the ONLY president not to register a 50% job approval rating at any point in his presidency since Gallup began measuring presidential job approval in 1938."

You call me a liar, I showed that you are full of shit.

Do you ever investigate something, before you say something?
Active military personnel in Europe is around 1.5 million.

Every EU country is massively scaling that up now.
We used to have a much higher defense capability during the cold war.
It was not 'the left' in the EU that cut budgets on defense, it was everyone from left to right, because the immediate threat was so much lower. The US kept spending, but not because of defense, but because of offense. You used military interventions all over the world to secure your interests. You WERE the threat, but as long as it wasn't against us, we let you do it and got suckered into helping you with it on many occasions too.
Trump is a fucking liar, that's why we hate him. And you are all suckers, which is why I feel sorry for most of you. However, your ridiculous misplaced confidence
in lies that obvious annoys the fuck out of me too.

When what happens?
"our national soveinty has solidarity"? Are you delirious?
"And no more democratic country." Is that your wish or your observation
of where you are headed?

Why are you switching the topic?
Russia is running out of young people to sacrifice for Putin's vanity project.
That's why he's using North Koreans and African immigrants as cannon fodder.
It is appalling that you prefer such a monster over free and democratic countries,
that support a country that wants to be free and democratic, instead of being
occupied and most likely ethnically cleansed by a dictatorship.

If you just smoked some crack, wait until the world takes its normal shape again,
before you try to write anything.

What is the problem that you are trying to solve here?
Trump failed to show any significant bit of fraud in your elections.
The only one who tried to do fraud in your elections, are the fraudulent electors
who tried to help Trump win. It's the biggest scandal ever in your elections.

Voting should be ANONYMOUS! Forcing Americans to sign the 'voting paper'
is against any interpretation of your Constitution of the last 130+ years.

Don't you know anything about ANYTHING? You're fully at the peak.
When will you finally show that you know something useful about anything?



In my country, we need to show our ID, to be able to vote.
(There is NO identification on the paper ballots itself, they are anonymous.)
But you cannot change that, a few months before the election.
That would be an incredible infringement of people's voting rights.
That's exactly what Trump wants to do, because he can only win by cheating.

I already expected that you wouldn't honestly try to answer
the question, because then you have to admit to so much I am correct about and so much you are wrong about. That's why you react to the FORM, instead of the SUBSTANCE.

Everything in politics revolves around these 2 major questions:
- Who is in control of making decisions for everyone?
- Who is in control of the money?

The graph is just a tool to make that more CLEAR.

Everything else, that is important to you, is the result of how these 2 questions are 'answered' in practice, by your country. It's the basis for ALL political ideas.
I want the decisions being made as democratically as possible. If that doesn't include any decisions about money, because the money is controlled by billionaires, then it's not democracy.

If you don't understand that, then you have NO BUSINESS
to talk about politics, because then your ideas are based on NOTHING. Then you're just reacting to vibes.

We are not allowed to post dirty pictures here, unless they are your own and you are verified.

I see what you did there; you are calling me a Nazi again, aren't you?
You enjoy projection and gas-lighting so much, don't you?

I didn't say NOT to invade Iran, if it's justified then I would support it.
However, there are some RULES that we agreed upon internationally, and you have in your Constitution (and so has my country), that we have to respect.
That's the JUSTIFICATION. That's very important, when you start killing people.
(It's why you can't just shoot people in a church, but you can if someone broke into your house late at night. I'm adding this for your level of understanding.)

I only see Netanyahu lying his ass of for 30+ years and I see Trump understand that he is lying, or he would have no problem with asking Congress and the UN for approval.

Can you give me a summary of what he said?

Does he still like the word 'tariff'?

Since he won the war with Iran, when is he getting you out?

Has he said anything about Venezuela?
Was 'arresting' Nicolás Maduro effective in stopping that drugs trafficking?

How is he going to win back the trust of the American voters,
since his approval ratings are worse than any POTUS before him?

These are topics that you would expect a president to talk about and questions that
the American public would want answered. At least, in any self respecting democracy. Autocratic regimes will only have their dictator taking to the stage to praise himself.
And his people will react like .......... very much like you.

Do you know how many old folks are voting by mail?
Old folks are your most loyal voters, and many of them
cannot stand in a line for hours, waiting to vote.
You are cooking your own goose.

OK, just react to the last paragraph, with some actual arguments, if you have the balls.

All of Trump's best friends are in that upper-right corner.
He hates all the countries in the lower half.
(I'm guessing now that you understand this graph. Do you?)

Anything can be used as "an excuse for a political elite to justify the enslavement". Even the exact opposite, which is what Marx's idea boils down to. Every religion has been used in the same way.

The result of communism turned out into the exact same inequality as crony capitalism and fascism. You are completely correct. However ONLY a healthy mix of socialism and capitalism has EVER achieved freedom and a good quality of life for people, and Marx was at the root of that development. Capitalism by itself would have never achieved any of the things that you and phart are celebrating in your comments.

I am NOT clinging to ANYTHING, YOU ARE. You need to believe that socialism is wrong and Marx were wrong, by pointing at the complete opposite ideologies. That's purely because of the propaganda of your media, there is no logical thinking behind it. If there was any logical thinking behind it, you could make better arguments than you're making now.

At least the philosophy of Marx has resulted in some countries with freedom, democracy and a high quality of life for most of the people. That's the countries in the bottom left quadrant of the graph. There are NONE that are based on pure capitalism of fascism.

It's not a joke or hyperbole to call MAGA 'fascist'. It's fulfilling every aspect of the definitions of 'fascism' and all the criteria that fascism studying scholars have agreed on describes 'fascism'. The most important one is: "Authoritarian, dictatorial power centered on a single leader and the suppression of opposition.". That is exactly what you're DOING, faster than any democracy has ever been turned into an authoritarian state. NONE OF THEM ever turned out well for it's citizens and the rest of humanity.

You are pointing to Marx for some of them, but Marx described the EXACT OPPOSITE, he described a system of radical/direct democracy. A system without ANY ruling elites, but bottom up, grass-roots, working class (as the ONLY class) decision-making on a local scala and with delegates on a larger scale.

All those systems you are accusing Marx of, had/have leaders like Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Xi Jinping and the Kim dynasty, have all betrayed Marx's ideology, for maximum or absolute power for themselves, combined with demanding a god-like worship from their people. That's exactly the same way they played it in the fascist regimes we know, with Mussolini and Hitler as the most notorious ones. Then we have Putin, who comes from communism, but cannot be called that anymore, he's just an authoritarian, but he demands god-like worship from his people, just the same.
NOW LOOK AT TRUMP!! He is following the exact authoritarian strategy, taking more and more power for himself, he made himself almost untouchable now, AND demanding god-like worship from his people. AND YOU ARE GIVING IT TO HIM.

Do you see where you are heading? You were already in the upper-right quadrant, with the communists and the fascists,
but I TELL YOU that Trump wants you to be fully at the upper-right corner of that graph. Am I wrong? If you think I'm wrong, why are YOU supporting EVERYTHING that would be needed to get there?

Not just technology, but also actual pressure to do more in less time. Jobs might have become a little less labor intensive, a little less straining on the body, but they have also become much more complex, adding multiple layers of cognitive demand.
You think of jobs as simple tasks, as building something, repairing something, or breaking something. That's not the reality, because lots of manufacturing has been outsourced to cheap labor countries. Checking meters isn't replaced because people are lazy, but because the alternatives are cheaper than people. People are only still utilized in places where they are absolutely necessary. That's efficiency, and it is mostly for the profit incentive.
Mostly, we are referring to the same things, but when people demand rewards from the efficiency that they created, that's not laziness, that's their fair share.
No billionaires have ever achieved ANYTHING, it's always the people working for them.

Which 'particular field'?

"This complaint isn’t new. Variations of “young people don’t want to work” go back decades—sometimes centuries.
It’s often more about changing norms than actual decline in work ethic." You're just a standard old person, complaining about young people, as old people have always done.

Cats kill 1.3 to 4.0 Billion birds per year in the U.S. alone.
Americans had cats long before there were any wind turbines.
Birds are 'designed' by nature to outbreed threats like that.
They are not 'designed' by nature to survive pollution.
By the way, wind turbines can be fitted with cameras to not kill any endangered birds.
They can stop the blades when some Spotted Owl or Bald Eagle comes into danger,
and just continue when some common Blackbird, Dove or Robin comes along.
They just become good food for the wildlife under the wind turbines.

Oil-spills kill birds too. Deepwater Horizon oil disaster (2010) is estimated to have killed 600,000–800,000 of coastal seabirds.
Oil and gas waste pits associated with fracking and other drilling are estimated to be killing 500,000 to 1 million birds per year in the U.S.

Burning fossil fuels releases carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases that warm the planet. Climate change alters temperatures, rainfall, and seasonal cycles that insects rely on for development, reproduction, and survival. Many insects are highly sensitive to such changes. Total insect biomass and abundance have dropped dramatically over recent decades (for example, declines of ~45% in some compiled studies over 40 years. About 96 % of North American bird species feed insects to their young or rely on insects as a significant food source at some point in their lives.

Off shore wind farms are actually very positive for increasing biodiversity, because turbine foundations act like artificial reefs. There is some setback during construction, but those foundations can last 40+ years in which the artificial reefs attract mussels, barnacles, crabs and small fish, that in turn feed bigger fish and marine mammals.

In your country, there are no people who hate Jews more than the Christian Zionists who kept pushing Trump into war with Iran. To them, the Jews are just a means to an end; the literal end; the "end-times".

"Christian Zionism is a religious belief that the return of Jews to the Holy Land
plays a role in biblical prophecy and the Second Coming. This includes the idea
that either Jews will convert or be destroyed in the end times."

Or are you saying that "convert or be destroyed" is loving Jews?

"Utility-scale solar photovoltaic (PV) and onshore wind are currently the cheapest forms of new energy generation globally, consistently outcompeting fossil fuels, even without subsidies."
And that was even before Trump bungled himself into a war with Iran.

Family farms are bought up by large agribusiness companies, investment firms and wealthy individuals, because they are exploited by the capitalist system, to their knees.
How is that MY "new idea of progress"?

It is exactly what I have been saying; normal people will
lose everything and the wealthy will OWN everything.
Normal people will work for peanuts, until they die,
as long as there are still some jobs available.

They are over 65, because you don't have a decent social security system, and their mostly worn out bodies can at least still drive a truck. They don't want to, they HAVE TO.
And Elon Musk will take that escape away from them.
He will replace truck drivers eventually.

Damn, you have literally turned into a propaganda bot.

You are not refuting ANYTHING I'm saying, you just come up with more and more new nonsense.

Please stop your nonsense about people not wanting to work. Productivity is higher than every in human history, and people just want some of the rewards for that.

The billionaires are spending trillions to replace working people. Your argument has always been that those billionaires are job providers, and now you are even betraying that principle.
Do you have any principles left that you haven't betrayed,
in favor of the wealthy exploiting EVERYONE ELSE?
If I didn't know any better, I would think I was talking to
the most selfish wealthy asshole, who ever lived.

Your Christian Nationalist Republicans are working very hard to take away "condoms and pills and simple surgerys", because they like to force poor people into god awful jobs for shit pay.

Do you think that work in the 1800s did anything for self improvement? That's the system that your side it trying to
bring back.

"The Party’s inner circle?" Are you talking about the Russian communist party? Do you even know that Karl Marx was a German? It was 34 years after he died, before his ideas were ever used as an argument for any political violence.

"Has Marxism ever made anyone’s life better?"
Marx’s ideas influenced a lot of working-class empowerment movements. Working class people were treated like cattle:
- factories were dangerous
- wages were low
- hours were extremely long
- child labor was common
- people lived in abject poverty

People revolted against that and demanded:
- Labor unions (especially in Europe)
- Welfare state development (indirectly through socialist and social-democratic movements)
- Labor laws (limits on working hours, child labor bans, safety regulations)
- Social democracy (e.g., parties in Germany, Scandinavia, UK Labour tradition in its early roots)
- Academic fields (sociology, political economy, critical theory)
These developments improved life mainly by reducing extreme poverty and insecurity, increasing worker power, and making industrial capitalism more regulated and socially protective over time.

Karl Marx was a major intellectual influence, which contributed to these reforms.
That resulted in YOUR ABILITY to work yourself upwards.
It resulted in the best situation of the working class, around the 60s and 70s in your country. Since then, the wealthy fought back to take these reforms back from you. Today, American people are struggling again. If you keep supporting 'MAGA', it will only get worse, because it is the exact opposite of the ideology that resulted in such a high standard of living for working class Americans in the 60s and 70s.

"pick a couple segments of it and show us where he is wrong?
I have literally already done that, in multiple ways.

How about you:
1) Make a list of what Lookatmine2 is RIGHT about
2) Make a list of what I am WRONG about
If you are fair, his list is short, but mine is shorter.

There is NOTHING that African dictators have in common with Marx's ideals or my socialist principles, NOTHING!!!
You are just showing how much your brain has rotted.
European capitalism was one major driver of African colonialism and its lasting effects, which are these dictatorships.

There is currently no widely available, conventional cure for AIDS. However, the first known functional cure was identified in Berlin, Germany, in 2008–2009, when Timothy Ray Brown (the "Berlin Patient") was cured of HIV following stem cell transplants.
Capitalism prefers TREATMENTS over cures, because treatment makes more money for pharmaceutical companies.

Since when do you think that technology is good for society?
I'm talking about people prospering. You can have a high tech economy, while people are starving. With AI replacing jobs,
that might be very close to becoming real in your lifetime.

The US reformed Japan in the same way as you reformed the US, through DEMOCRATIZED and REGULATED capitalism:
- Broke up large industrial monopolies (zaibatsu)
- Introduced land reforms that gave land to farmers
- Encouraged labor rights and unions

Yes, he eloquently articulated your indoctrination.
The problem is that there is hardly any truth to it.

Yes, Democratic Socialism is actually based on Marxist ideals.
The communism that you are referring to, is the absolute OPPOSITE of Marxism; it has enslaved its people and resulted in massive wealth inequality, which is the absolute opposite of the Marxist ideal, who describes a STATELESS, CLASSLESS society. Stalin's system was a highly centralized authoritarian STATE,
with a ruling party ELITE. Don't you understand the difference?

Do you understand the difference between state-owned in a dictatorship and state-owned in a real grass-roots democracy?

Maybe you understand it better if we describe the difference as 'democratically-controlled' and 'elite-controlled'. In the first one,
the system serves the people, in the second one the system serves the wealthy, powerful elites.

That 'Euro-style Socialism' has resulted in an incredible recovery after WWII and a much higher quality of life for most people than you are living in the US.
What you are calling 'Euro-style Socialism' today is actually to the right of the political situation you had in the US, in the 60s and 70s.

What you are referring to with "since 1917" is FASCISM, the exact opposite of the democratic socialism that I support.

Fascism: An authoritarian, ultranationalist system where the state
is supreme and dissent is suppressed.

Dutch SP Socialism: A democratic system with a mixed economy, strong welfare state, and expanded public ownership of essential services.

There has never been a "purely socialist nation". As a socialist myself, I understand that a "purely socialist nation" would only be possible after at least 200 years of a large democratic majority wanting socialism, which is very unlikely to ever happen.

That 'privilege' that you are accusing me of, is the exact same for Americans who benefitted from American politics in the 60s and 70s. It's the time that MAGA is referring to; Make America Great AGAIN.

In the United States in the 1960s–70s, “socialism” appeared in the form of an expanded welfare state with programs like Medicare and Medicaid, various sector-specific government-owned or publicly controlled infrastructure and services, public provision of education and housing support, stronger regulation of private markets, and high progressive taxation used to fund social insurance and redistribute income.

That's a level of "socialism" which exceeds the level of "socialism"
in the Netherlands today. You had a Top federal income tax rate of ~70%–90%, we have a Top income tax rate bracket of 49.5%.
You had more direct public provision in housing, more dominant public role in postal/logistics infrastructure and more expansion-oriented public utilities and infrastructure build-out.

The US in the 60s and 70s was still more unequal than the Netherlands today, because your welfare state was fragmented, labor and housing markets were more unequal, and structural racial and wealth disparities were not fully offset by redistribution, whereas the Netherlands today combines more universal social protections with stronger wage compression and institutional equality mechanisms.

The "the former East Germany" was living under authoritarian 'communism'; the state owning everything and controlling everything. You are heading towards "oligarchy with authoritarian rule"; the wealthy owning everything and controlling everything. Explain the difference for a working class American to me.

I didn't share this graphical representation of 'various political/economic systems' for nothing. I shared this to explain something
to people like you, who don't understand it.

No, explain why wind on a mass scale is a BAD investment.

Oil is getting increasingly expensive and polluting.

Democrats are NOT LEFTIES.
Most of them are more capitalist than the Republicans.

Both parties serve the wealthy. There is one difference;
- Democrats want a stable system of inequality.
- Republicans want to increase inequality indefinitely.

Smart people like Bill Gates and actors understand that increasing inequality indefinitely isn't possible and that it leads to a collapse
of the system, either economic collapse or violent collapse.
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No answers here?

You are reminding me enough of that fact already.

I posted this depiction of the Dunning-Kruger effect in 2022.
It shows that it requires knowledge and experience to understand how stupid you are. You hardly have any knowledge, on any subject, and you are showing it by confidently posting vague inconsistent ideas that are not supported with any logical arguments.



Meanwhile, I'm far beyond average knowledge on many subjects and approaching
the expert level on several. You think that knowledge is the same as common sense,
but it isn't, it requires an effort.

You wouldn't need so much oil, if Trump didn't pay energy companies billions of dollars
to stop building wind-farms. Didn't you say that capitalism will invest in renewable energy, so the government won't need to? Well, not if Trump pays them tax-dollars to not do that.
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It's the exploitative nature of capitalism that keeps people poor.
Social democracy isn't welfare, it's your own tax money being invested in your fellow humans, to maximize their potential. In your system, your tax dollars are used as welfare for the wealthy, it's stealing from the average American to give to the wealthy.

You shouldn't have to work that hard to make a good life for yourself. Have you ever considered how much of your labor goes to enrich
people who don't do shit at all?

Look at a 'socialist' country like Norway; their government invested
in their fossil fuel industry and kept it as public ownership. Their investments have created a massive pension fund for the people, instead of massive wealth for a few private wealthy individuals.
By the way, the debt of Norway is 55% of GDP, yours is 125% of GDP.
American taxpayers are paying $1.1 Trillion per year in interest.
Imagine how much less it would be, if your fossil fuel industry was publicly owned. It would make you $300 Billion per year.

The 'haves' have NEVER been on the left. Have you ever seen one ask to get his wealth taxed significantly? They at best pose as liberals or wokesters, which doesn't cost them any money. They are only giving people the idea of freedom and a chance to have a decent life. Don't you understand that an economy is consumer driven too?
They cannot sell much to poor people. Your current MAGA party
has forgotten that, which is why they are crushing your economy.
Wealthy liberals are only protecting themselves, because they understand that when inequality goes too far, the people will revolt
and take back what was stolen from them. And they are paying the Democratic party to never move left too much, because that will take too much away from their wealth. They want you to be happy and obedient, so you will keep serving them.

You have a choice between Democrats who promise the moon and deliver 10% of that, and Republicans who promise to hurt people and than deliver 200% of that. How can you not see their self-enrichment? Why do you think that Elon Musk supported Trump? He got to cut money for poor Americans and then gets tens of billions of dollars in government contracts. He gets tax-cuts, you get higher health insurance premiums. Rural red states are losing the most clinics, because Trump is giving that money to the wealthy. The wealthy are increasing the energy costs of the people, for massive AI datacenters
intended to replace the jobs of middle class Americans.

"Karl Marx was an evil fool" Is that supposed to be an argument?
It just shows that you are clueless. Why is it evil to have the preposition that people should not be divided into classes?

Their food chauvinism is very real. Just like the French.
That's why it's so much fun when that TV program goes there.
Is there some of that food chauvinism going on where you live?
Of course, no one beats our peanut butter “pindakaas”!

Repeating things can be a sign of dementia

Correct, as Daniel Dennett described in his book "Intuition Pumps and Other Tools for Thinking", a book that I have read and can highly recommend, it can be used as a vital cognitive tool. He calls it the "workhorse of philosophical argumentation". It is a method
of challenging an assertion or theory by taking its premises to their most extreme logical conclusion, revealing them to be preposterous or self-contradictory.

However, a 'Reductio ad absurdum' can also be used as a fallacy, specifically an 'Appeal to Extremes' or 'Straw-man', when the conclusion is not a truly logical consequence,
but rather an exaggerated, distorted, or ridiculous scenario.

I told you before; defining a word or a concept is not an argument.
Make a logical connection with something I said. That would be an argument.

Logic:
- Netanyahu has warned about the Iranian nuclear threat for more than 30 years, always saying that they were weeks or months away from having nukes.
- Barack Obama negotiated and concluded the Iran nuclear deal known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA). It was agreed on July 14, 2015, between Iran and the P5+1 group of world powers (the US, UK, France, Russia, China, and Germany) plus the European Union.
- Two major international investigations by the IAEA into Iran’s nuclear program’s nature, and several independent intelligence assessments (eg from the U.S. and other states) have repeatedly stated that Iran was not actively building a nuclear weapon.
- May 8, 2018: Trump cancels the nuclear deal with Iran
- Iran initially stays in the deal, but around mid-2019, Iran began slowly stepping away from the restrictions.
- April 1, 2024: Israel struck an Iranian diplomatic compound (consulate building), killing senior Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps commanders, which is considered a very serious violation of international law.
- June 21–22, 2025: Trump orders airstrikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities. No valid claims to Self-defense (Article 51) and no UN Security Council authorization. No specific prior authorization from Congress.
- Trump claimed the targeted nuclear facilities were “completely and totally obliterated.”
- February 28, 2026: Israel en the US bomb the Iranian diplomatic compound, which is an illegal act of war, by international law
- Trump declares victory and says "we won" multiple times.
- The US increasing troop deployments to the region and is reportedly preparing plans for ground operations inside Iran.

Conclusion: Israel and the US are the agressors, Trump is a war criminal, and Trump
let Netanyahu bungle the US and the rest of the world into 'THE WAR' that Netanyahu
has desired for 30+ years, and other presidents were never stupid enough to start.

Millions of Americans are protesting in EVERY American state, about Trump behaving
like a king and being a criminal, and you are making the argument that you have to be
a Dutch socialist to disagree with your president. The clown has the lowest approval rating any US president EVER had. That is because of his actions, that contradict EVERYTHING he promised before the election, and confirms ALL the warnings of people like me.

Obviously, you didn't learn a damn thing, from that video. Did you even watch it?
Anyone can copy-paste the description.
I had already watched it for 18 minutes before, until I decided it's pretty weak AI slop.
Still, you have done exactly what the video warns against, many times.

Here's an actual person, Daniel Dennett, generally considered one of the most influential contemporary thinkers in philosophy of mind and cognitive science, explaining several thinking tools: only registered users can see external links
@16:17 he discusses the 'Reductio ad absurdum'

If Someone Asks You What Gaslighting Is… Show Them This Clip:
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OK, I didn't know it was local. It will probably stay a 'dream' to all of us.

Would they call it the McCrispy Italian in Italy?
If you want to irritate Italians, you claim that some non-Italian food is Italian.

There is a program on Dutch TV that investigate food and other consumer products.
They regularly investigate a product that is supposed to be Italian, like some packaged pasta Carbonara mix. Then they go to Italy to compared it to the real thing. It's always fun to see how it disgusts them and fills them with pity for what we are eating.
"Why would you do this, it is so easy to make yourself! Please, let me teach you!".

Joe Rogan is FINALLY realizing MAGA is a cult
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If this bonehead understands it, when do you?

You are right, if the US would have joined the fight, the Nazis
would probably have conquered all of Europe, and everyone
would be under fascist rule, probably still today.
And now you're supporting a fascist, who wants to do the same.

Do you think that the US did that out of your kind heart?
Your leaders don't want any powerful regime, besides your own.
The US didn't want Europe to have it's own military industrial complex, you wanted us to be weak and dependent on you, and make lots of money from selling us your weapons. That's what happened, and now your clown is lying to you and stabbing us in the back. I will do my very best to make Europe independent of the US and make your regime pay economically for its betrayal. It doesn't even require much effort, because Trump is destroying your country faster than we could ever hope to achieve. Americans are suffering, jobs are declining, AI will destroy the rest, and the greed of your billionaires will squeeze the life out of your economy. You will either fight them in a revolution, when you finally see the truth, or you will starve blaming the poor.

In Ukraine, you are not HELPING at all, you're just selling us weapons, that we donate to Ukraine, so Russia doesn't run them over.
We are doing that to prevent World War III. Let Putin win, and that's what we will have. Trump is doing his very best to let Putin win easy.
Give him that victory, and it will motivate the Russian people to keep fighting for him. Now they are suffering losses, defeat, humiliation and economic struggle. And because of Iran, Trump is removing sanctions on Russia, so they can sell oil again and replenish their war chest.

True, I cannot say that I ever really struggled. My father came from poverty though. His father died when he was 9 and his mother struggled to put food on the table. That's in a time that women were not supposed to work. The government paid her a widow's benefit. It was incredibly meager. Every now and then people from the governmnet came to their house to see if they were not too rich. They literally looked into the cooking pot what's for dinner. If they found out that you were making too much money on the side, they would take that benefit away. That's why my father raised me with awareness of poverty. We were not rich either. My father has always been a low educated electrical mechanic. He maximized his income by buying a house, instead of renting. Besides food, education, and 1 car vacation per year, we wore very cheap clothes, and much that we got was second hand. I learned the value
of money and the challenges of not having much of it. I see what was available to my father, by working hard, which is no longer possible for low educated working class people today. That's why I'm a socialist.

Every single socialist that I've ever met, has a background of lower middle class and either struggling themselves or moving upward to middle class or upper middle class. Every right-winger I have ever met, ether grew up upper middle class or rich, to not understand the exploitation of the working class. If they didn't, they bought into the lie that poor people don't work hard enough.
Your brain has been melted by propaganda to think that way.
That's why you're imagining this exactly upside down.
That's why you are supporting a billionaire, who is cutting taxes for other billionaires and taking away benefits from the poor and working class.

It's right-wingers who don't understand what poverty comes from.
How can you shit on people who struggle, if you struggled yourself?
I have seen struggles, even though my parents did their very best.
That's what motivated me to get educated; so I can struggle less.
And while I'm doing well, I don't forget the struggles that I escaped.
Tell me about your hard days then?

"This is between me and her" when you are a dick to her.
Then don't involve me, when she is a dick to you.

Well, it just doesn't include Jeffrey Epstein's former neighborhood,
or they would obviously have voted for a Republican again.
They gotta protect themselves.

The McCrispy Italian looks good. If my girlfriend wouldn't get violently sick from eating
at McDonald's, we would have probably tried it already. There is soy in almost all their food.
I'm not going alone.

So, try it, and tell me how good it was.